Opinion
Obama takes shots at debate
Story by Mark Page | April 17, 2008
Montana Kaimin
Barack Obama lost the debate on Wednesday, badly. There was a ton of negative discussion about him and his associates, but almost no punches landed on Hillary Clinton.
It may seem to some as though the debate was lopsided toward Clinton, and Obama was simply getting the harder questions, but this is simply untrue. After the gaffe Obama made in San Francisco over the weekend, it was unavoidable for him to get negative attention.
His problem was that he just couldn’t explain this stuff away at the debate, something he has been wholly unable to do for almost a week. This may be because he won’t disavow the comments.
But when the Rev. Jeremiah Wright scandal hit, he managed, with a great speech on race, to turn the table on that controversy. Maybe he’s just tired. He looked it. Clinton was certainly more in the zone than him Wednesday night.
What Obama should have said was what he really thinks. A very thoughtful column appeared in the New York Times by Bob Herbert on Tuesday, suggesting that Obama really meant working class voters will not vote for him because he is black.
Reading between the lines in Obama’s comments, Herbert wrote that when Obama said people “cling” to “antipathy to people who aren’t like them,” this is exactly what he meant.
But if Obama addresses this, he could be attacking his own electability, which now looks like Clinton’s biggest argument against him.
There were also other scandalous reports mentioned in the debate. Obama’s association with members of the far left group the Weather Underground came up. These guys were responsible for a spate of bombings at government buildings during the Vietnam War.
He did manage to make the point, though, that Bill Clinton actually pardoned two of these activists, but hey… Bill was a draft-dodger.
Clinton wasn’t entirely without negative moments. When asked how she would respond to an Iranian invasion of Israel, she said with “massive retaliation.”
What could this mean? Nuclear bombs?
This sounds a little hard-handed for a hypothetical. Obama simply said the attack would be “unacceptable.”
If he cannot weather these attacks far better than he did on Wednesday, Obama will be in trouble during the general election. But this doesn’t mean Clinton is more electable.
In the general election the Republicans would attack both her and her husband, and against the wealth of policy they have both put in place. Obama has inexperience to thank for this, which could also be a weakness, but maybe not as big of a weakness as experience.
The Republicans would be far less likely to politely tie their hands and refrain from mentioning the biggest gaffe of them all, Bill’s time in the Oval Office with some cigars and a woman named Monica.
But the real issue that this debate illustrated was the lack of issues altogether. Much of the time seemed to be spent delving into the personal history of the candidates, who they spent time with and the things they said by accident.
It seemed that the only time actual issues were brought up, both candidates agreed. On taxes, they both want to repeal President George W. Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy. On gun control they both waver. On foreign policy, their comments were different, but both pro-Israel.
Clinton is far better at creating this rancorous atmosphere than Obama, and this is why she wins. When the story about Clinton’s “misstatements” relating to a trip to Bosnia during her husbands term was brought up, Obama didn’t take it and run.
In an apparent effort to look like he is above these attacks, he said that there should be less attention on these gaffes. But this just didn’t work. It made him look weak under fire.
The debate ended with a plea to superdelegates from both candidates. They are bound to be taking a closer look at Obama after this debacle. But, according to Slate’s delegate calculator, it will take at least 70 percent of them to vote for Clinton if she is to win. Even under the most favorable of conditions.
After Wednesday night, those conditions look way more possible.
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Comments
I am really quqestioning all the articles coming out that say BO resisted bashing Clinton?
He went at her every time he couldnt answer a question
Grant it he did it in round about ways but he still did it
Go back and watch it again- He was no Mr nice guy
This is the first debate where BO didnt get the kitty treatment and he didnt know what to do
I thank abc for finally showing that someone has the guts to ask BO questions
We all saw how well he takes it
His only come back to Ayers was something Bill did as president well who says she would have done the same?
Too bad Hillary didnt throw MO back at BO she has certainly said some very questionable things in her quest to be first lady!
Posted by Betty on 04/17/2008 at 7:21 am
The debate was a joke. No questions asked. Barack Obama was slammed for all of the negative attacks that have already flooded the media for too many days. Whoever says its not must be a Hillary supporter. If they did this to Hillary it would also be wrong. Obama tried to have a civil debate, but ABC news didn’t offer that. Obama did great considering the circumstances of Hillary and her squad teaming against her. Obama can answer questions. This was a complete Hillary show. They touched on all of her strong points and all of his weak ones. I hope news coverage stops these ridiculous tactics of using a televised debate as a political football to help the candidate of their choice. VOTE OBAMA 08!!!!
Posted by Lydia on 04/17/2008 at 8:10 am
Are you serious Lydia? That kind of mindset is why the Democrats will once again lose this election, which is unfortunate. People need to have some sort of accountability and step up rather that wait for a Dem govt to manage their lives for them.
Posted by Jason on 04/17/2008 at 8:39 am
Well, Jason, I certainly hope Lydia is serious. Any intelligent voter should realize the absurdity of the previous “debate.” The patriotism of someone’s pastor (who is a former Marine), flag-lapel pins, and whether or not voters are bitter, are hardly the issues Americans should be interested in, and they certainly aren’t issues real journalists should be pursuing when given airtime in front of a national audience.
And as far as the kind of mindset that will lose this election in the fall, well, you epitomize that mindset. As Democrats we need to resist the divisiveness that the media is creating within the party. If Clinton supporters can’t rise above their dedicated support of a losing candidate, McCain will indeed win in November. In other words, GET OVER IT. Or if the problems of the last eight years seem more like progress, then by all means vote against the eventual Democratic nominee (Obama), and don’t complain when the direction of this country does not change in the next four years for the better.
Posted by Torin Jensen on 04/18/2008 at 2:55 pm
they are all liars. No issues… no substance… just prosaic nonsense.
McCain, Clinton, Obama… they’re all the same. No difference. They will tax you more, take away more of your rights, and bankrupt this nation.
Fools, every one of you. Shame on you for buying into the media lies and distortions.
Bunch of lemmings.
Posted by Patrick on 04/22/2008 at 3:27 pm
